001: How Technology Gives You Freedom In Your Investing

Welcome to the first official episode of the Real Estate Tech Show! Last episode we talked about why we decided to come together and do this podcast, and today we’re getting into the real nitty gritty of what we do and why we love doing what we do. Cory is interviewing Joe McCall so you can hear about his experience and what really makes him a technology guru.

I say there are three keys to success in this business: Marketing, Automation and Delegation. Click To Tweet

Back in the olden days of real estate investing, there was no such thing as virtual investing or virtual wholesaling. No one ever dreamed of selling an unseen house to unknown buyers. But today technology can connect you with so many flips, deals, and wholesales that working from home (or Prague) in this business is practically commonplace. If you’re Joe McCall, you can crush wholesale deals while traveling the country in an RV. That’s because Joe used the right kind of tools in the right way in order to make technology work for him. He shares his favorite pieces of tech and talks about the investors who inspired him to start using it.

I made every mistake possible and somehow still I did it, just because I was taking action Click To Tweet

The purpose of technology is to serve you and give you more freedom. Technology is the tool that can give you back your life when you use it correctly. That’s Joe’s mantra. On the Real Estate Tech Show, we don’t want to give you fluff. We want to share with you the tools that work for us and tell you about the ones that didn’t. Throughout Joe’s story today, you’ll hear about all the things he did right and wrong in order to get to the place he is today. You don’t want to be a slave to your business, so tune in now and hear what Joe has to say. It’s going to change your world and really give you the perspective you need to start pursuing the lifestyle you want.

You can learn to do something once and never do it again Click To Tweet


2:37 Don’t be a slave to your business

5:30 Technology is more than a tool

7:20 Get our toolbox!

8:28 When and how did Cory and Joe meet?

12:25 What does Joe have going on in real estate?

14:07 What is nomadic entrepreneurship?

15:21 Real estate, virtual investing, and virtual courses

22:38 Joe’s Cris Chico moment

24:15 What happened after Joe released his first virtual course?

25:03 How did Joe start his podcast?

27:35 Joe hosted his podcast with someone he never met

31:16 Why does Cory love automation so much?

34:52 Sneak peek of future guests and interviews

36:15 Even if you aren’t tech savvy, this show is for you!

38:08 Why is Joe so excited about our new show?

40:07 Leave a review and you could win a new iPad!




Cory: What is going on, Joe?Joe: Hey, Cory. How are you doing, man?

Cory: Joe McCall! I love it, love it, love it.

Joe: That’s right.

Cory: Where are you today? Are you still in St. Louis today?

Joe: I’m in St. Louis today and this is our official number one episode, right?

Cory: Yes, yes.

Joe: You are in Oklahoma City, right?

Cory: That’s right. Yup. Right in the great OKC area. We’re only about six hours from each other. You know that Nelly is from St. Louis?

Joe: Yeah. I always get him and 50 cent confused.

Cory: He was the one, going down, down baby. He was really popular in that song. What other song did he write?

Joe: I have no idea, man.

Cory: Right. I guess we should talk about real estate and tech though, right?

Joe: Let’s talk about real estate.

Cory: This is episode one, episode essentially zero, if you hadn’t watched that one. That’s basically the introduction of why Joe and I have decided to do this podcast and team up. I’m excited about it because I’m passionate, I know Joe is passionate about real estate investing but we’re also really big nerds when it comes to geeking out over the new technologies. I’m talking about to the point right now where I’m sending Joe messages on this VR that’s coming out that Zuckerberg announced recently. I promise you, what is going to happen is that is going to be a disruptor and we’re going to see more and more information marketing businesses really start to embrace this and you’re going to start seeing other industries, small businesses and startups, embrace it. I just love the idea of technology and using it as this model and seeing this innovation that you can use to make things more efficient. You can create more time.

Joe and I both created out real estate businesses so it could serve us, not us be a slave to that business. Joe, I don’t know about you but don’t you see from either the students that you coach or even just people that you have conversations with, whenever they’re running businesses, they tend to make these businesses and they create this jail cell around them where maybe they might even be profitable but they have no life.

Joe: If technology does not serve you and give you more time freedom, then you’re doing something wrong. You got to make sure that technology is a tool that can give you back your life, can give you more time, more freedom. And then whatever technology can’t help you with, then you need to delegate that out to somebody else to do for you. I say there are three keys to success in this business: Marketing, Automation and Delegation. Automation plays a big part of in this, obviously, but marketing is the most important thing I often say. We’re not in the real estate business, we’re in the marketing business.

Then you have automation in the middle. You need systems, you need technology and tools to automate your business. But whatever you can’t automate, you need to delegate. Those three parts in this, I geek out over the technology part, the automation part. There are so many awesome tools, your technology is changing rapidly, we spend way too much time, Cory, you and I just geeking out over latest technology and the tools. Hey, have you seen this? What about this? That’s why I’m excited about this show though, we get to geek out together and maybe there is somebody else out there who’s interested in this stuff, who knows? I think there might be. This is going to be a good show, I’m looking forward to it.

Cory: I’m pumped about it. Today what we’re going to do is I’m actually going to interview you, Joe. I’m going to interview you and find out what your story is and I think it’ll be interesting for some of those that don’t know who you are and how much you’ve been such a big contributor to so many people’s success in their real estate business. Also I know that you’re part of Lifeonaire and there are big things going on there with Shaun McCloskey. Both of us are great friends with him and you and I met from Shaun.

I think it’s just going to be a great episode today to have people to get a little 10,000ft view of what’s going on in your life, with your family and the kids that are adopted. I’m excited to be able to talk with you about some of these things in your life because I think that’s going to really set a good foundation for almost giving permission of why someone should listen to you, listen to me because of the things that we’ve been through and what we’re going through right now in our lives and how we have these businesses and how we have had these failures and successes and failures but using technology has been an actual huge benefit because it’s a tool and it’s something that either you’ll let it control you or you control the technology.

Just like your cellphone, this thing can be a detriment to your life, an absolute tug on your time and just run your life. Or you can turn it off and then you can use it whenever you see fit. I know that’s simplified but Joe, technology is such a key part of everything moving forward in life. Sometimes for the better, and sometimes obviously for the worse for some things but I think we figure it out as we go. At the end of the day, it’s just a tool. Do you have anything to say about that before we get going?

Joe: It is. It’s just a tool. For me, I found it makes my life a lot easier but if I’m not careful, I’m looking at my phone and I’m not looking at my kids or my wife. If I’m not careful I’m geeking out at 6:00AM trying to figure out this new software, this new website tool to do something when I should be in the house hanging it out with my family. I totally get it.

We should mention too, Cory, I forgot to mention at the beginning of the show, we have a PDF.

Cory: Our tool box.

Joe: Our toolbox that people can get, our top 10 favorite technology tools that we use in the real estate space. People can get that by texting the word ‘TECH’ to 38470, text the word ‘TECH’ and we’ll get that over to you. I’m excited about that. I know it’s going to be really cool. Just a one or two page PDF, but in there we’ll actually have little links that you can watch if you want to, little extra videos that show you how we use these tools. It’s going to be a good resource. It’s hard to come down, we each have five. You’re going to have five, I’m going to have five. It was difficult coming down with just five but we did it.

Cory: We don’t want to give fluff, we want to give you things that actually work, things that were used in our business today or things that we’ve used in the past and really had some success with it and for whatever reason we moved on or used another tool.

Alright, Joe. I’m pumped about this, man. You and I met, I would say, probably in 2008 or 2009?

Joe: I think it was 2009, 2010?

Cory: Okay, 2009, 2010 and 8 years, 9 years ago. It was through a great friend of ours, Shaun McCloskey that runs Lifeonaire now. I know you’re a big part of that as well. He runs that with Steve Cook. He wrote a book called Lifeonaire which is incredibly impactful. We’re going to have a link actually to Lifeonaire on our reitechshow.com website. We’re working on adding more things to make that site just incredibly resourceful for you, so make sure you always bookmark that site. He’s a great friend.

I was coming to speak at St. Louis and Shaun had a short sale event, essentially had an event that was about short sales. The interesting thing was, when Shaun and I met, we were competitors. And then as it went on, we became great friends. No one was really talking about the short sales in that time which was around 2007 or 2008. I was working on a product and Shaun and I were talking about going in on it together. At that time, I had my own course called Short Sale Fundamentals which we ended up selling over 2500 of those courses over a period of time and that was exciting. I was there and you came to pick me up and that’s where you and I first met.

Joe: I remember I was so nervous because you were the big speaker guru guy. Shaun asked me to pick you up. I was just new into the business and I had followed you and bunch of other people on a speaker circuit. You were one of the featured speakers at the event for Shaun. I was all excited, I got my car cleaned. I was picking you up at the airport.

Cory: You got me bottled water.

Joe: I wanted to get you a bottled water because you always get thirsty when you get off the plane. I’m at the gas station or whatever. I can’t get one of these cheap flimsy bottled waters. I remember I got the expensive $3 bottled water.

Cory: Fuji water?

Joe: I don’t remember exactly but it was the nicest one they had. I think it was the square bottle with a fancy top. It was fun. We just hung out and I think at the time too I just came out with my wholesaling lease options course, teaching people how to flip lease options which I had been doing for a while. I was hoping to get some feedback from you. I don’t remember exactly what you said. I remember you giving me some advice about how to promote the course and how to make it better and how to help people. That was a long time ago. I remember the car I had, it was an old Honda Accord. It was this little dinky car.

Cory: There’s nothing wrong with Honda Accords, man. They’re still incredibly reliable. Consumer reports has them at the top three one of the most reliable cars. I remember that. It was such a quick meet and greet. Then later on in life, all of a sudden Joe starts to really hop on the – I don’t know – speaking wagon but just really creating products and all of a sudden he starts popping up online more and he starts to become a bigger presence and more exposure. We could go into many, many details but from the broad stroke today, tell us what you got going on from then and then today where you are, Joe.

Joe: Let me just tell you, I love real estate and I wanted have my own business, I wanted to be my own guy, I started flipping lease options. Started doing really well, I was making more money than I was in my full time job. I have a degree in Civil Engineering and I was working for an electrical contractor. We’re doing scheduling for large power plants. I was making good money, about $80,000-$85,000 a year, but I was just frustrated and I was always trying to do real estate while I was working my full time job and that was creating conflicts of interest. I was working pretty much two jobs, trying to do real estate. This was 2008, 2009, this was when the market was crashing. I had a lot of debt, I was in a world of hurdle, I have a lot of rental properties. I was really trying hard to learn wholesaling which is flipping properties quickly, flipping contracts.

Anyway, it was right about that time you mentioned Shaun McCloskey and Steve Cook and they talked about creating a vision for your life first and then designing a business around that. At the very beginning, in 2009, I was very intentional. I created what I wanted my life to look like. Then I said how can I create a business that supports that? Most of us get it backwards, we have the business first and then life fits in around that. I said we want to travel the world, we want to homeschool our kids so that we can travel and we live where we want and just take vacations whenever we want. I love the phrase of nomadic entrepreneurship, a digital nomad.

I started thinking about these things and I knew in St. Louis then, I had to know how to flip deals without seeing the house, without talking to the sellers, without talking to the buyers. I started doing that in my own backyard and I thought, well, man, if I can wholesale houses without seeing the sellers, without seeing the house, without talking to buyers, then I can do this in any market across the country, from anywhere in the world. We started travelling and our first trip we took with our four kids was in 2011, 2012. We were gone for about two or three months in Prague, flipping deals in the United States. A couple of years after that, we took a three month RV trip around the North Western corner of the US, flipping deals from our RV. Then just last year, we were in Prague again for three months, travelling around Europe a lot, doing deals again while there. We’re still doing deals now and we’re still doing it but I could not do it without technology.

Cory: Let’s get credit where credit is due, Joe, on this too. Our good friend and often times we get in battles between PC and Mac. Chris Chico was one of the really I would say almost godfathers, at least to me whenever I started seeing this kind of movement of real estate and technology and virtual, doing virtual investing. Chico was one of the guys that really put that foundation on that. I know that you’ve learned from Chico and I’ve learned from Chico as well from that virtual concept. It was something you started to embrace in a big way and built your whole life around it which I thought was just really cool.

Joe: Chico and I are friends, we’re both friends with him. When he came out with his course, it was 2009, he came out with virtual wholesaling. I think he called it Absentee Owner Profits at the beginning. I remember, it’s funny, there’s another guru and I won’t say who he was. He released some audio from one of his boot camps, Chris Chico was one of the kids that came up to the mic and was asking a question. He asked the question to this guru, “Can you do deals without seeing the house?” This guru totally cut him down. I wish I had this video somewhere. The guru said, “No, that’s ridiculous. You have to go see the house. You have to meet the seller face to face.” You can recognize Chico’s voice, he’s got a distinct Puerto Rican accent.

Sure enough, about a year later, he comes out with this course, he’s doing it. Because the market’s tanking in Florida and he’s flipping deals now in other states around the country. When I heard about this, I’m like, that’s interesting. At the time there was flippinghouses.com or flippinghomes.com. I think it was a website, that was like the big active forum at the time.

Cory: There was Easy HUD, remember, Chris Daigle had that and that’s where Shaun and I were actually posting a lot on Easy HUD and Daigle and Chico either were partners or they eventually started working together.

Joe: People on those forums and discussion boards were bashing the whole concept of virtual wholesaling. You can’t do it in another market, it’s ridiculous. These are gurus, guys just trying to sell you the latest and greatest tricks. I like this idea, I think it can be done, and I believed Chico that he could do it. This was at a point in my life where I was a course guru junkie, I went to all the boot camps, I bought all the courses. I was spending way more money in education than I was actually making.

Cory: My hands up too. At this point, over $200,000 in courses and programs, I think we all made the investment.

Joe: Right, right. What I did though was I said I’m going to buy one more course. I’m going to do what this guy says to do and I’m not going to change anything. I’m just going to do what he says. I’m not going to question it, I’m going to use these ugly postcards, I’m going to make his stupid offers, I’m going to ask you silly questions. I didn’t like it but I’m just going to do it because I was in this thing where I was always changing things and trying to do this guy’s stuff. Part of this guy’s stuff, part of this guy’s stuff, and part of this guy’s stuff.

Cory: And we think we’re smarter. I’m smarter than that person, right?

Joe: Yup, totally. We’re very alike. It wasn’t until then, and it was Chico’s course, I bought his course on virtual wholesaling and he was teaching how to use technology and how to setup these really amazing systems and stuff. That’s what got me hooked and then I started doing deals. Actually, my first deal was a $12,000 flip on house. I made every mistake possible and somehow still I did it, just because I was taking action. I started flipping a lot of deals.

At that point, I knew I wanted a virtual automated wholesaling business. I wanted a business where I didn’t have an office, I didn’t have staff and overhead. I wanted to be able to work from anywhere in the world and I’ve been able to do that.

It’s amazing with technology, with outsourcing, I’ve been able to do deals from all over the world literally. From a beach in Spain, from a café in Prague, from the local Starbucks, from my backyard. That’s why I love this business, I’m so passionate because I know if it helped me, it can help a lot of people out there.

Cory: Joe, were you at the Virtual Investing Seminar 1 or 2? Did you ever go to those?

Joe: No, I have the recordings right back there. It’s funny, I’ve never listened to them but I have them.

Cory: That was really the moment, I think, when that was put together. I think Daigle was one of the first guys that really put that. Chris was one of my first affiliates and even told me the concept of encouraging me, Chris Daigle, that this was even possible to create a course and to sell and this is the easiest way.

Joe: Yeah, that’s another huge thing. Everybody will have physical courses. Nobody thought you can have virtual.

Cory: Nothing that was digital. Exactly, you’re getting mp3s and the physical things.

Joe: When I bought his course, I remember I was like, what? I could use your name and password? Where is the manual? Where is the book? I started watching the videos, I was like this is really good stuff. He showed how to do everything, step by step. The cool thing was the reason why he said we should do this is because he said I’m continually updating it. He was, he was updating the old way with the manuals and books and CDs, the only way to update stuff was to send stuff stuff to people. I remember so clearly the backlash that he was getting from other gurus, from other forums, like he can’t do virtual wholesaling.

Cory: “You’re a scam! You have to see the house.”

Joe: And you can’t do a course without any materials and things like that. At the same time Cory, I was listening to a podcast by these guys. I’m a big Apple fan and I had the iPhone and the podcasting things were coming out. There was only one or two real estate investing podcasts in 2009, 2010. The real estate was kind of okay, but there were some good general business types of podcast. One of them was my favorite, it was called The Internet Business Mastery, have you heard of that?

Cory: Yes.

Joe: With Jason and Jeremy, I think were the two guys. Internet Business Mastery. They had a course, they were teaching people how to take the knowledge and put it into an online thing, like Chico had done. I was flipping a lot of lease options. I was thinking, oh man, I could do a podcast, talk about what I’m doing, what I’m learning here and how I’m doing and all that. I could create an online course. It’s about that time I sat down with Shaun McCloskey and I said, “Hey, I want to come out with a course.” I went to one of their Lifeonaire Masterminds and they all shut me down, Cory. I said, “I want to come out with this course called Wholesaling Lease Options.” I’m not kidding, Wendy Patton was there, who’s a lease option guru, super nice lady. Another guy, John Hyre, who doesn’t really speak and travel anymore but he was at the time.

Cory: Attorney?

Joe: Yes, an attorney. Shaun McCloskey and Steve Cook and some other guys. I said, “Hey, I want to come out with this course called Wholesaling Lease Options.” They all said, “No, it’s a bad idea. Everybody wants to become a guru. Somebody’s just going to copy you. It’s not unique enough. It’s either too vague or too narrow.”

Cory: You were having you Chico moment, weren’t you?

Joe: What do you mean by that?

Cory: People were telling you no, you can’t do it. It’s not going to work. You were embracing your Chico moment.

Joe: Yes. I said, “I think it is going to work because I knew from these guy’s in Internet Business Mastery, it’s important to be niched. You need to be niched. The more narrow the niche you can be in, the better, more profitable your business is going to be.” I was doing not just lease options but wholesaling lease options. It’s a niche within a niche. I knew this was a unique concept that nobody else was really focusing on. I’m going to give it a shot anyway. I came out with this course, Wendy Patton and I become really good friends and she started asking me to come speak at her thing.

Cory: She had a REA in St. Louis, correct?

Joe: No. She would travel and speak at REAs.

Cory: Okay, she didn’t have a REA in St. Louis. There was another lady that had a REA in St. Louis that was doing short sales too. Wasn’t she?

Joe: Yeah, let’s not talk about her.

Cory: Just not talk about her. When he was travelling to…

Joe: She invited me to come speak at her boot camp, she came out with a similar product to mine. The crazy thing was she would promote me and I would promote her. We were both doing really well and then I created my podcast. By this time, Sean Terry had come out with his podcast and had maybe 20 episodes. It’s kind of funny, if you can go back and find them, they weren’t that well done.

Cory: No. Sean and I are dear friends. He’ll even confess that the recordings are bad, the audio is bad, everything’s bad about it, but he didn’t let that stop him either. He got the information out. Interesting enough, a lot of people go back and listen to every single one of your podcast and those get a lot of downloads.

Joe: He has this podcast called Flip to Freedom. At the time, there was only like two or three podcasts that were updated regularly for real estate investing. I’m an Internet Business Mastery student, I have their course and then I contact Sean, I said, “Hey, I’m Joe McCall.” I called Sean, we literally talked for couple of hours. I said “Your podcast sounds just like those guys at Internet Business Mastery, did you buy their course?” And he said, “No, I just copied everything that they do. He copied the intro, how they do it, the format, and the ending. I just realized this guy is one of the fastest, craziest implementers I’ve ever met. Just like massive, massive action.

We were talking and he said to me, “Joe, there’s this book series called The Stock Market Wizards. It’s these guys that wrote a couple books. In the ‘90s, it was a really popular series of books where they interviewed other people that were making a lot of money in the stock market.” He said, “You should come out with the Real Estate Investing Wizards, or something like that.” I didn’t like the word ‘wizard’ so I thought how about Real Estate Investing Mastery? It’s got the keyword in there. I get to interview other real estate investing masters. At the time, nobody was really doing that. The real estate investing podcasts that were there were usually just one or two guys talking, occasionally they do an interview. I decided I’m going to do the format.

In 2011, I started my podcast and I actually invited this guy Alex Joungblood to be my co-host and we’ve never met, but a couple of times we talked on the phone, we hit it off. He was an active investor doing virtual wholesaling himself in Virginia. We were doing similar stuff. I said, “Hey, do you want to do this podcast?” And he said, “Yeah, sure.” So we did it.

I’m not kidding, literally, five years later, I met him for the first time. We’ve come out with several hundred episodes, we have 1.3 million downloads, we have listeners in over 170 different countries. The podcast has just done really well. Never as well as Sean Terry’s but it’s still doing really, really well. That’s been the crazy journey that I’ve been on. Since then, because we’ve been travelling, because we’ve been doing deals virtually and I’ve been very open about it on my podcast, talking about what we’re doing.

A lot of people have asked me, “Hey, show me, teach me how to do what you do.” I create different courses, I’ve come up with different kind of coaching programs and I’ve helped literally thousands of people from all over the world do deals in virtual markets and other markets around the country. We’re even coaching realtors now and investors on how to setup automation, how to set up systems to do business virtually. It’s an exciting journey, I love doing it.

Cory: I love that. Really, you have becomes the master at that domain. There are so many folks that I know that will reference you into the conversation of automation, of tools, technology. It’s because you’re utilizing those things and integrating them in with your investing business. Now, you’re starting to see success, not only that but now you have scale. It was about you in the beginning, about helping and just figuring out ways with your family and so you can travel and create this life and have a business that supported it, like you said. Instead of the reverse way that most entrepreneurs do, we think about the money first and then we’ll go figure out about life later, whatever we have leftover scraps. You did it a different way, the Lifeonaire way, if you will.

From that point, then it’s working. Now from there, what can I do to serve others with what I’ve done? This thing is working for me now, how can I duplicate and serve others with what is working? That’s what basically now has been the success track for you. Now, you’re starting to see almost a place where you’re having to turn away people because now you’re having to say instead of yes to every opportunity, now, it’s almost like I only yes to the opportunities that I know are going to meet a certain filter. Before, you’re just saying yes to everything because you don’t know what your filter is. As you start to get some momentum and you start to have some accomplishment in certain things, then you start to create that filter. What that looks like for you to support that time for you family, support how much actual dollars that you want to generate for revenue for the year, how much do you want to giveaway, all these things start to play into that model.

What I love about automation and why we’re such geeks about it, is because you can learn to do something once and never do it again. Let me say that one more time because that is a dun dun daaa moment. You can learn to do something once and never do it again. Joe and I have ways that we can teach on the computer and anything that you do on the computer is recordable. Most virtual investing, if you will, of doing things on the computer is duplicatable. It’s not just because Joe is a super genius smart guy which he’s really smart but that isn’t the only reason that the success happens. What happened is he found certain processes, what I call the 3Ms for success, Mindset, Mechanics, and Money. He’s got the right mindset on how I can do it once and never do it again. He’s got the mechanics lined up because now, they are working for his business. Now how can I setup a system where it works with somebody else essentially creating that engine. And then the money starts to flow in because all the mechanics are there and you set it up in the right way.

I just think what’s really incredible about you, Joe, just acknowledgement, is how you’re able to not only implement but you also have everything else going on in your life. I have two kids, you have four and having to go through that in a way where you’re present, you are making time for them, making that important, but then not taking away from the students that want to work with you, that also have families, that also have to make it and creating those system and processes that work for them too. I’m excited about talking about this automation and how we can serve other people with just the experience that we’ve had in doing automation with real estate and in these processes from virtual investing. I just think it’s incredible to be able to do a show like this because this is where things are going. More technology is being added into our lives, it isn’t less.

Like I said, that can be a good thing or it can be something that’s stressful on you but it is your choice on whether or not you pick up the phone or you don’t. It’s your choice whether or not you let these things, notifications, everything else that comes in be on social media. There’s a lot of questions, how do you keep up with social media, how do you keep up with everything else that comes in with your direct mail, how do you keep up with investor relations with buyers, how do you keep up with meetings on score cards when you’re doing your traction and setting the meetings up. What if you’re in prog, how do you use technology to get on the computer and do a virtual meeting? All these things, Joe, you figured out in a way that is working well. I’m excited to hear you share more of these things.

Joe: Thanks, man. I’m excited about interviewing you on our next episode. By the way, while you were talking, it reminded me when I told Chris Chico we were doing a podcast together. I think he needs to be one of our first interviews.

Cory: Absolutely. Let’s do it. I wrote down a list of every single person that we’ve mentioned on this first episode. I’m going to tag them, I’m going to say you were mentioned in this episode. It’s funny because you go down memory lane, we didn’t talk about Sam Bell and Colin back in the day from Real Estate Investor which now is Ross is handling. There are so many different people that you and I saw, they didn’t have the stage, they didn’t have all this momentum that you see right now, they weren’t travelling, they were just starting up. We got a chance to see from the beginning levels of how their business grew. Sometimes, we got a chance to be on the inside and got a chance to see some other technologies that were working and ones that didn’t work. Things that we thought were going to accelerate their business and actually took away from it.

As excited to talk about technology and how it helps, I’m also excited to talk about some of the things that you got to watch out for, too and you’ve got to set up some of those filters like we talked about. This concept that automation and real estate together, it is a model. This is a model. Is it one size fits all? Certainly not.

My mother, I love my mom, but she hasn’t owned a computer in her life, she doesn’t know how to even turn one, she doesn’t own a computer. I had to create an email address for her and she wouldn’t even know how to text right now unless I actually forced her to text because of her grandkids. Why am I saying that? I’m saying that because my mom is a great person, I love her to death, so much respect for, learned so much from her but she’s not going to get online. She’s not going to do it. She’s 72 years old, she’s not going to get online.

There are some people that are just adamant about not using technology. Guess what, this show is still for you. The reason is because you need to have somebody in your team that if you’re doing a business, you are going to be out of business if you don’t have somebody on your team. You don’t have to be the person doing it, but you need to have somebody that is in charge, a geek if you will, on your side that knows how to do social media, knows how to do marketing, understands the technology tools, at least some of the basic ones, you know, Skype and some other thing. You need to have someone that knows how to do that. I think as we move on in the future Joe, they may not have a business, what do you think?

Joe: I agree. One of the big reasons I’m looking forward to the show, we’re not claiming to know it all and to be the best guys in the world on technology. I like doing this stuff because I learn more from other people. In my other podcast for my coaching students, I learn more from them, sometimes I feel like, than they’re actually learning from me. I’m looking forward to just getting the feedback from other listeners on the show. When we talk about something, somebody is going to send us an email or response back that says, “Hey that’s awesome. Did you know it could also do this? Do you also look at this thing?” I’m looking forward to that stuff as well.

Listen, Cory, I got to get going on a phone call here in a few minutes. Next episode, we’re going to interview you. I’m looking forward to getting more into your story. You’ve created software, you’ve created apps, you’ve created a huge business doing real estate and teaching real estate. I’m really looking forward to hearing about your experience because you have more than I do.

But guys listen, if you want our tech tool box, of all of our favorite tools, out top 10 favorite tools, text the word ‘TECH’ to 38470. 38470, text the word ‘TECH’ and we will get you that PDF. It’s going be a real valuable resource. And also our website, retechshow.com or reitechshow.com. Check it out, get the show notes from this episode, listen to the previous episodes. Cory, it’s been good, man. I had fun.

Cory: I really appreciate you, Joe. Last thing, make sure and we’ll appreciate it so much if you will leave a positive review. I even say just leave a transparent review. We’re doing our very best to serve you and want to give you the very best information here, not waste your time, I know it’s very valuable to you, valuable to us too. Leave us a review, it does help in a tremendous way. We appreciate you so much for doing it. We’ll have a link in our website where you can go and easily do that.

Joe: I got an idea Cory.

Cory: Okay.

Joe: I have an iPad here, it’s from one or two generations ago. I’ve done this before with my other podcast, at Real Estate Investing Mastery. We are going to give away an iPad to somebody who leaves a review.

Cory: Nice, I like it.

Joe: Cory and I will talk offline later about how we’re going to do this. But that’s an ethical bribe to get you guys to leave us an honest review. We will enter your name into a drawing to win a free iPad. Whether it’s this one or a new one, I don’t know yet, but I’m not using it so let’s just give it away, Cory, to somebody who leaves us a review. Every month, maybe do a new gadget, what do you think?

Cory: I love it.

Joe: Give away a free gadget to somebody who leaves us a review. We will give you more information about that, maybe on our next episode.

Cory: Maybe we could find the founders of some of these technology companies that we use, Joe. Maybe they’ll give us a free 30-day trial or something we can give away to someone and then recognize them for doing it. That’d be cool too.

Joe: That’s a good idea. One of my favorite tools is FreedomSoft, we both know the guy who owns that, Rob Swanson. Love to talk to him about that.

Cory: Right. FreedomSoft, there’s a lot of things that we could talk about.

Joe: Great idea. Or if we can’t get the founders or the owners of the software to give us, we could just cover it.

Cory: Sure. Absolutely.

Joe: Out of our nice generosity.

Cory: Absolutely.

Joe: I got to go. See you later.

Cory: Alright, bye now.

Joe: Bye bye.

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *